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Pit Bull Bill Moves Forward, Passes Senate Committee

A bill that would overturn the state's Court of Appeals decision declaring pit bulls "inherently dangerous" overcame its first hurdle Thursday by passing a Senate committee hearing 7-2.

Maryland's Senate Judicial Services Committee voted 7-2 in favor of a bill that would overturn the state's Court of Appeals decision declaring pit bulls "inherently dangerous." 

Senators Joseph Getty (R-District 5) and Nancy Jacobs (R- District 34) made up the minority.

Despite more than two hours of testimony before the committee, Senate Bill 2 passed without amendment. 

The legislation would overturn the breed distinction created by April's Tracey v. Solesky ruling, which stated that "when an attack involves pit bulls, it is no longer necessary to prove that the particular pit bull or pit bulls are dangerous."

Instead, the bill's language tightens down regulations on all dog owners by making them legally responsible for a first bite even if a pet has never been violent. But Senate Bill 2 loosens the requirements for landlords by removing the strict liability they have faced since the court's decision.

Sen. Robert Zirkin (D-District 11) tried to offer an amendment that would make landlords liable for bites that happen on their properties if they did not require renters to purchase insurance for their animals, but he ended up being the only vote in support of it.

Several members supported Zirkin's amendment in theory, but said it was too late in the game and there was too little time during special session to debate the pros and cons of requiring dog owners to purchase insurance. 

"This has got to go to the House," Sen. Victor Ramirez (D-District 47) said. "We've all dealt with the House for years, it's a nightmare to get anything done."

The House Judicary Committee will take up the bill Friday at 1:30 p.m.

 

Correction: This article originally included Sen. Norman Stone (D-District 6) in the minority when he voted in favor of Senate Bill 2. Patch regrets the error.

Mike August 11, 2012 at 07:39 am
Karl Schaub said: "It doesn't matter to me or anybody else at risk why these dogs end up being less trustworthy - it doesn't change the risk."
Look at the percentages of people who commit violent crimes. I guess maybe we should lock up all the men, Karl? Are you for that? You shouldn't care why, only that men are FAR more likely to be violent than women. This is where the insanity leads when people view everything through group labels rather than individual actions.
Mike August 11, 2012 at 07:46 am
Tim said: "Breeding dogs, any dogs, should need a permit or certificate..."
Right. Because the state knows everything, including how to ensure people behave well, so long as they apply for a permit. The answer to this, like most issues, is NOT new law. The answer is for PEOPLE WHO DON'T APPROVE OF BAD BREEDERS to STOP buying from those breeders. Want a dog? Go adopt from a shelter. Breeders only exist because there is demand. Kill the demand by way of the willing actions of free people, not by force of guns. Permitting will only raise the cost of dogs bought from bad-breeders and good ones alike, it will not get rid of the bad-breeder problem.
Mike August 11, 2012 at 07:58 am
Ashley said that dogs are still "wild animals." While incorrect, she raises a good point.
Dogs are not "wild animals" at all. They are distinctly different, and contrary to common belief. It's not easy to know this, but the studies I have seen have been very clear on this. Dogs are domesticated, and yes, dogs come from wolves. But you can't take wolves and domesticate them. You can only domesticate a TINY subset (less than 5%, a good bit less as I recall) of wolves that are genetically different from the rest. To create dogs from wolves you must find a small subset of "broken" wolves that don't grow up, retaining their wolf pup behavior and instinct thoughout their adult lives. Dogs are the genetic decendants of these rare, perpetual wolf puppies. No amount of training of a normal wolf will EVER produce a dog. The studies on this are fascinating if you ever get the chance to scope them out.
Mike August 11, 2012 at 08:03 am
Bckarn said: "I don't think we should roll the dice. They can be very dangerous and unpredictable"
Nearly all homicides are committed by people. I don't think we should roll the dice. They can be very dangerous and unpredictable. This is where the insanity leads folks, when you treat individuals with the clumsiness of group labels and statistics but still with all the lethal force of law..
Mike August 11, 2012 at 08:08 am
Truthsayer said: "What this court case did is that they couldn't get money from the dog owner because the person filed bankruptcy, so the lawyer went after the landlord so that they can collect. That's all they care about is ensuring that they can get money. Public safety is clearly not their concern."
YES, YES, 1000-times YES!! You nailed it. Kevin Dunne, the lawyer comes right out and says it in his letter to the editor. His primary concern is that the damages might go unpaid. He doesn't care WHO pays, just that SOMEONE pays. He'd be happy if somebody on Easter Island was forced to pay, so long as the victim got compensated. This is the CREATION of a new victim, and it is FINE with him.
Mike August 11, 2012 at 08:17 am
Angel said: "obedience training, certification, registration and insurance may be the solution."
I think you are thinking well. However, certification and registration have nothing to do with it. Some faceless bureacrat won't know how to assess or guide people to care for a dog. However, if the law stayed completely out of the whole business, in the long run, a private insurance market would get it right, as I think you correctly allude in your post. The private market would get the actuarial risk right, free from the lawmakers. There is no magical truth in votes, just tyranny of the majority. (Just ask Galileo.)
Mike August 11, 2012 at 08:28 am
BTW, let me be clear. This is NOT to say the law has no place here, it certainly does. The law's place is to correctly use collective force to collect damages FROM THE NEGLIGENT, RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERS and deliver them TO THE VICTIMS. There's nothing special needed in the law about dogs, much less specific breeds. Your animal, not properly managed and not acting in self-defense, is your responsibility.
Buck Harmon August 11, 2012 at 11:27 am
Good comments Mike...Thanks
Buck Harmon August 11, 2012 at 11:30 am
I'm still waiting to hear why Joe Getty made a dumb vote here....I thought he had more brains... disappointing.
Ladyhawkkk1 August 11, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I have been a dog groomer for over 20 years. It’s unfair to single out a one breed of dog. Yes pit bulls will inflict a lot of damage when the bite. That’s all you hear about on the news when it happens. There are many “cute” dogs that can and have cause damage when they bite.(I know firsthand) You don’t ever hear about them. Take the chow, cocker spaniels, labs, terriers, chihuahua and husky’s. They are cute but can be nasty. And inflict serious injury also or the owner who is scared of their dogs, because they will bite them or others. And do nothing to correct the issue.
If you chose to have a dog, especially a “dominate “breed. It boils down to owner responsibly- socialize, train and purchase from a respectable breeder not some back yard breeder. Yes they are part of the family and you love them. Just remember they are dogs not your “child’.
debbie bell August 14, 2012 at 08:47 pm
I am a pit monger. You will NOT tell ME that I can't own and breed the dog that all US dog fighters choose.
I will call my dog a BULLY, I will let my dog BULLY you/ your pets and I will blame you if my BULLY maims or kills you. I will call you a 'drama queen" if you complain about your child spending 17 days in the hospital. I will laugh at your little dog's dead body when my BULLY plays too hard! After all, your dog probably "dissed" my dog, so he had to kill your dog in your yard. Hey, if you don't want your dog to be killed inside your yard or inside your house, don't have a dog! I am a pit monger. I will permit a million pits too many to be born (pit suffering is fine with me too) but I will fit tooth and nail when one pit bull makes the news and is in danger. You see, I love fights! Communication? Problem solving? Not so much. I will say antisocial things and get away with it. See how easily I say, "my pit may not start the fight but she will finish it." I would love to follow all those who cut me off in traffic and kill them in their driveway, but I would be punished for that. So instead, I acquire THE best dog for killing other dogs and then treat my dog like a normal dog, let it kill.. I am a pit monger. so I will pretend to be upset by dog fighing, but I will secretly think "pits do look magnificent when fighting". I even posted that once, but the anti-dog-killers called me out for that, so I won't post that again. signed: the pit monger
debbie bell August 14, 2012 at 09:04 pm
Excellent post Karl. I volunteer with a multibreed rescue. We no longer accept/place pits, because we learned the hard way. The only puppies we placed that matured to kill their good friends/housemate dogs were tragic pit puppies. They simply couldn't help themselves. They simply did what they were created to do: kill other dogs. They only dogs who tried to kill the foster family resident dogs were pits, pits who we introduced slowly, and played well with others right up to the time they began killing the foster home's dog. So we are taking fewer large mixed breeds, because MOST have pit heritage, it seems. That's because most pits are not spayed/neutered.
Tragically pit mongers do not care about pit welfare. They tell use every time they post that they only care about themselves, their egos, their ability to breed and own pits. The disproportionate suffering and deaths both caused by and suffered by pits is perfectly acceptable to them. This cannot be stressed enough. They care only about themselves. You will notice they do not offer any solutions. Most pits are not spayed/neutered. That's because pit welfare is not of importance to most pit owners, since their pits are weapons, objects for power and aggression. Our suggestion for Mandatory spay/neuter is rejected by pit mongers. The result: pits breeding and dying like flies. They fill our pounds and die by the ton, from coast to coast. You will find this is all perfectly acceptable to the pit mongers.
debbie bell August 14, 2012 at 09:20 pm
Someone mentioned the ATTS test. Pit mongers use it to mislead the public, either by deception or ignorance. They indicate that this test results mean that pits are safe. 84-90% of pits do pass the test.
However, read the test. No where does it say that it is a prediction of safety. It was created to weed out dogs not brave enough for police work. The test doesn't have any child, for example, one wheeling by in a stroller. It doesn't include a elderly dog, like one, sleeping nearby on a lawn chair. No elderly woman walking to the mailbox is part of the test. Too bad, because all these examples of vicitms of pits doing exactly what they were created to do: attack and do damage. The child was pulled from the stroller and essentially "scalped". Both the sleeping dog and the elderly woman were killed. Oh, the test does have weird wire on the ground for the dog to walk over, and an umbrella! Wow! The part that is the most telling, a part that many dogs I know and love would fail, is #4. A starter pistol is suddenly fired behind the dog, 3 x. Dogs that panic and fail to recover quickly, fail the test. This part tells a thinking person, that if a pit is attacking, and you have a gun, warning shots won't stop 84-90% of the pits, so you will have to shoot to kill. And actually, that's what happens too. Every year, more pits/pit mixes are killed by neighbors or police, trying to stop the pit's attack to save the victim, ,than pass this misleading test!
debbie bell August 14, 2012 at 09:34 pm
When GSDs, Dobes, Rotties were the 'bad" dog, they never killed other dogs in the numbers that pits/pit mixes are now kllling. Not all attacks make the news. How do I know this? The pit owners call our rescue to give up their dogs. "Gotta get rid of my pit, he dug into my landlord's yard and killed his dog on the porch." Ah, yes, a "good" gamebred pit. Non pit dogs never broke into yards, cars, homes to kill their victims They never killed cattle and horses in the numbers that pits are now. Other dogs simply are not as "good" at killing. Most normal dogs have a sense of self preservation. This was removed in the creation of the pit bull. Check out youtube video "pit bull vs cavalo" Excellent gamebred dog, not giving up.
liveleak.com "2 pit bulls attack smaller dog" Excellent video. Should be required viewing of all pit owners, shown at every pit bull awareness daze, every BULLY adoptathon. I never blame the dog. I do blame the breeders, the dog fighters, the pit mongers,who cause the infestation of these tragically handicapped mutants in our communites and cause their deaths by the TON in pounds. You cannot adopt your way out of killing pits, as long as 8 litters of pits a week are being produced in your community! its are different. Proof is that,with countless combinations available, pits are the choice of essentially ALL US dog fighters. Pits are victims of these man-made handicapps. Stop making more victims. Ban pit breeding now.
debbie bell August 14, 2012 at 09:47 pm
Pits are not more mean or angry than other dogs. The problem is that they don't have to be mean or angry to act on instinct and begin tugging, sometimes tugging something to death. A beagle isn't mean or angry when on a rabbit, altho the rabbit runs for his life.
The tugging is the instinct. Check out youtube.com "bullseye hang time" All four paws off the ground, and still tugging more. Imagine that dog tugging on your breast, or testicles? Your child's jaw? Your elderly mother's thigh? The comment says it all. One pit monger happily writes; "True apbt god couldn't even created. It took men." I do agree, God had nothing to do with these extreme mauling, tugging, crushing instincts of the pits. Cruel humans caused their existance. That is not sufficient reason to continue making more of them. Enact and Enforce Mandatory spay/neuter microchipping of all pits, pit mixes.
debbie bell August 14, 2012 at 09:56 pm
Did you look for her, post signs, distribute fliers?. When our rescue hears "my dog was stolen" , we encourage them to look for their LOST dog. Sometimes the dog has escaped and needs their owners to come save it!
I'm glad you never had a problem with your pit harming anyone you knew. But you couldn't keep her safe/at home. What happened to her? Did she get trained to fight, was she abused? I do agree that there should be insurance for all dogs. However, as other things, how would it be enforced? I have insurance for my dog, even tho she is a non pit. I recommend mandatory spay/neuter microchipping. Any lost dog would be MSNM before return. Any dogs suspected of being fought would get MSNM. Immediately there would be fewer attacks, fewer puppies being born. It would be more difficult to sell pit puppies if breeding was illegal. Everyone sane and compassionate wins.
debbie bell August 14, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Did you know that when the UKC was founded in 1898, the registration # 1 was given to the pit bull, Bennett's Ring, owned by the founder? Did you know that UKC was expressly created to register pits, the American Pit Bull Terrier and then added coonhounds, bird dogs, etc?
Did you know that the UKC, says "form AND function". Dogs must have proper conformation, but also perform the "job" of their breed to be declared a Champion.. Setters had to show they could hunt birds by winnig field dog trials, coonhounds had to hunt coons and win. Pit bulls, did they have to win "nanny dog" contests? Nope, since that nickname wasn't created until the 1980's. No, in order to have your pit bull become a Champoin it had to win three dog fights, ones where a UKC referee was present and reported the results to the UKC. Pits were created to kill other dogs. That is their history and their instinct. That is their handicap too. When the instinct to tug and shred sparks in the pit bull mind and a sleeping neighbor dog is avalable, a "good" pit will kill. If no dog is available, a dog-sized human may dog (child). Stop making more handicapped, sometimes deadly dogs.
Colleen Carter August 15, 2012 at 11:46 pm
I agree with Mike. He called the landlord "self-serving". He needs to look in the mirror.
Colleen Carter August 15, 2012 at 11:55 pm
I've adopted two pit bulls type dogs from shelters. I have a master's degree. I own my business and a home in Montgomery County. I'm a pretty responsible person, and my dogs are very nice dogs.
First, the reason you "see" mostly pit bulls in shelters is because "pit bull type dogs" are actually a mix of up to 10 different breeds. DNA tests have proven that in 80% dogs visually identified as "pit bulls", there is no breed commonality whatsoever. The CDC and the American Veterinary Medical Association both concluded that breed is not a factor in dog aggression in a 10-year study of dog bites. There are no statistics that prove "pit bulls" bite more often. If you read dog bite reports, they list "pit bull type dogs", which includes up to 10 different breeds and mixes (American Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Bulldogs, Bullmastiffs, and several others that often include Boxers and Huskies). This demographic makes up almost 50% of the U.S. dog population (although, as the CDC points out, a precise number is impossible to quantify because of the subjective nature the definition of "pit bull" because a "pit bull" is really just a mixed breed, short-haired dog), and they are responsible for between 20 ad 30% of dog bites. Break that down, and they have a pretty low occurrence of dog aggression.
Colleen Carter August 16, 2012 at 12:01 am
Considering the fact that a "pit bull" is a mixed breed dog of up to 10 different breeds that can only be identified through subjective visual assessment of physical traits, and is thought to make up between 40% and 60% of the U.S. dog population, the "breed" (which can be a boxer/bulldog mix as easily as a mastiff/husky mix) would therefore be responsible for a statistically appropriate number of bites and aggression incidents. Does that mean mean that they are more dangerous, or more likely to bite, than any other breed? Of course not. There are simply A LOT MORE OF THEM!
Colleen Carter August 16, 2012 at 12:05 am
I'm with Tim. You should need a license to breed and sell puppies. It should be an expensive license. Getting caught selling dogs without a license should carry an outrageous penalty.
Unfortunately, most people don't give much thought to what harm comes from buying a dog from an irresponsible breeder. Dogs are treated HORRIFICALLY when used for breeding. And rampant and irresponsible breeding is why our shelters are full. NO MORE BACKYARD BREEDING! If you are a responsible breeder, and you get a license, and you run a responsible facility, then FINE. But this attitude that you can make enough money for a vacation off of your dog's puppies is sickening.
Colleen Carter August 16, 2012 at 12:15 am
I have a master's degree and I work as a technical editor. I don't understand why YOU keep repeating the same misguided information, and accuse others of not understanding the facts.
1. There are a HUGE number of dogs that can identified as pit bull in the U.S. Up to 40-60% of the 88 million dogs in this country, by many estimates. That's a minimum of 35 million dogs. There are back yard breeders all over this state who are trying to make a buck by breeding their "pit bull" with their neighbor's "pit bull" and selling the puppies for $100 a piece. It is a RAMPANT problem that needs to STOP. It is a reflection of this irresponsible behavior, not of the nature of any breed of dog. 2. "Pit bull" is not a breed. Some dogs visually identified as "pit bull" DNA test as a boxer/bulldog mix. Others may DNA test as a bullmastiff/bull terrier mix. A "pit bull" is a mutt of up to 10 different breeds, and is only identifiable by subject visual assessment. 3. Because of the sheer number of dogs that can be identified as "pit bull", there is a relative number of aggression incidents related to the number of dogs. Although the CDC stated clearly that a baseline is impossible to reach (because of the subjective nature of identification AND because this makes it impossible to quantify the number "pit bull" type dogs), it is impossible to track. But it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that 40% of all dogs = 40% of dog-related incidents.
Colleen Carter August 16, 2012 at 12:20 am
I agree, MJ. I have a master's degree, own my business, celebrated my 12th anniversary this week, and share my cozy 1930's bungalow in Takoma Park with my two pit bull rescues and the love of my life (for the last 12 years).
I guess us "pit bull people" are too smart, happy, successful, and well-adjusted is too much for Karl to take.
Colleen Carter August 16, 2012 at 12:30 am
Debbie, you do understand that the Westminster Kennel Club is affiliated with the AKC (American Kennel Club) and is not the same thing as the United Kennel Club?
Or do you? "Pit bull" is NOT an AKC-registered breed, therefore there is no "pit bull" category at Westminster. Staffordshire Bull Terriers (which are, in fact, the dog referred to as the "nanny dog" and has been since the 19th century in England) has won Westminster, but SBTs are NOT pit bulls. I have an AKC-registered Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and I have 2 rescued "pit bulls". Good job on the copy and paste from the UKC website, though.
Colleen Carter August 16, 2012 at 12:32 am
I think debbie bell may be off her meds.
Melissa Wilson August 16, 2012 at 12:39 am
Someone can yell at me for being off topic on this one but I feel the need to point out that Pittbulls were originally bred to be "nanny" dogs, companion dogs, therapy dogs, search and rescue dogs, and even seeing eye dogs. There is even several photos floating around the internet somewhere of Helen Keller with her Pitbull who served as her seeing eye dog, companion, and therapy dog.
Karl Schuub August 16, 2012 at 12:41 am
Really? Nanny dogs...odd because another Pit Bull attack on a child in Harford County just this evening. It bit the child in the face and arms. Fortunately a deputy was in the area and shot the dog dead. Nanny dog? If you're mental and really have a death wish for your kids maybe.
Melissa Wilson August 16, 2012 at 12:54 am
Yes, in fact they are very protective of their families, especially children. In my personal experience our dog Tee was very loving, put up with plenty of ear tugging and tail pulling from my nephew and would even guard him away from sharp edges on furniture or stairs/balconies/edges of porches he may have tumbled down. Tee paid just as much attention to him and guarded and protected him as any adult or babysitter in the home.
Karl Schuub August 16, 2012 at 01:01 am
Care to comment on the situation in Harford this evening where this seemingly calm, Pit Bull pet attacked an 11 year old and mauled him in the face and arms?
Sheeple August 16, 2012 at 01:34 am
When an evil person uses a weapon to harm someone, does the legal system punish the weapon?
Umm, yes see gun control in MD, an AR is regulated because it looks mean.

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